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Re: Marie Laveau (504 Views)
Posted by: richiebee (IP Logged)
Date: August 08, 2007 10:42PM

Ctc said "Plech was just another Lukas progeny until he took on a particular
vet".

Chuck, you've thrown this card on the table a couple of times,and I think this
is a theory you are stating as fact. For the benefit of all of us, could you
identify an approximate point in time when Pletcher and Allday began working
together? Could you disclose what Pletcher's win percentage was before and after
this point in time? Number of stakes wins before and after? Number of new tops
before and after? Does Allday treat all TAP horses, or just those at certain
tracks?

Ah the "Lukas assistant" legacy. The four who have had the most impact are TAP,
Kieran McLaughlin and his brother in law, Mark Hennig, and Dallas Stewart.TAP
and K Mac are future Hall of Famers, Hennig and Stewart are solid trainers.
TAP and Hennig are both sons of horse trainers; Dallas Stewart came up through
the ranks, I remember him galloping horses for a shrewd Fair Grounds trainer
named Connie Tassistro back in the early 80s. K Mac grew up in horse and
basketball crazy Lexington and by his own admission realized at his height he
had a better chance of training horses than he did of playing basketball at UK.

A story about K Mac that is too good to be true is that KM had just gone to
work for DWL, and DWL left K Mac the responsibility of getting an old horse
trailer painted. K Mac found 2 people willing to paint the trailer: one offered
to do it for $400, another offered to do it for $800. K Mac opted for the $800
paint job, and DWL was apparently very impressed with K Mac's willingness to
spend someone else's money.

As usual, I digress. Chuckles, if you back up the Pletcher/ Allday alliance
theory with some statistics, the theory carries considerable weight. Until I
see some evidence I continue to contend that TAPs greatest edge is his access to
superior horseflesh.



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