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Re: Marie Laveau (569 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: August 09, 2007 07:37AM

bordercollie Wrote:
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> Todd Pletcher wins because he has the resources to
> do so.

[color=#9900CC][b]Do you consider the Vet one of those resources? and if you do, how much significance do you assign to the Vet as compared to other "employees" or the auction price of the horse? or under whom the trainer cut his teeth?[/b][/color]

> Better talent makes trainers and jocks look
> better then they actually are. Alan Garcia won two
> races today because he was on the best horse at
> the perfect time. Same goes for J.Bracetty who
> guided a $28 horse home Sunday,with ease.The good
> thing was Garrett Gomez wasn't on the horse,
> because if he was Durkin would have said great
> ride GG.

[color=#9900CC][b]In 1997 Patrick Byrne had 2 Juvenile Champions. One of them was Horse of the Year. They were by Phone Trick and Deerhound respectively. Neither was very fashionably bred nor very pricey. But by any standard, pre purchase, they were far from the "best horseflesh" out there. Both were busts at breeding and both are dead now. Albeit one in a barn fire. A barn fire? They have one other thing in common. They were both overseen by the same Vet who burst upon the scene that same year.[/b][/color]

> IMO trainers have been training the same
> way for the last hundred years,some were just
> lucky to have better horses to train, period!

[color=#9900CC][b]Here's another one that doesn't think horses are any faster today. He is probably unaware of Lawyer Ron's recent track record at the Spa. And before that Left Bank's track record at the Spa. And also the fact that the incredibly fast numbers being run are a relatively recent phenomena in this game. As recent for Plech as about 2001. (I'll try to pin down the exact date, but the folks involved aren't real eager to disclose information that brings them under even more suspicion.) Maybe Barry Irwin can be a resource here. He "employs" Plech. He can ask him. The answer will be 2001.[/b][/color] [color=#FF0000][b](I take that back, after a quick glance at some back numbers, the year will be 2000)[/b][/color]

> It's not any differant then a basketball coach teaching
> the triangle offence to a group of players,group A
> will learn the same fundermentals as group B, but
> it just so happens that group A has the best
> players.

[color=#9900CC][b]I guess that means Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa are really just much better athletes than their contemporaries. Ok, some athletes really are better than others but you're not really telling this board that the same track coach that gets a recent and heavily skewed number of 100 yard dash record setters is just working with the Favorite Tricks or Countess Diana's of the human sprint world are you?[/b][/color]

> I have watched many of TAP's two year
> olds run poorly, does that mean they didn't get
> the juice? All it means is that The Lucas boy
> looses 75% of the time he enters a horse, which is
> pretty much the norm.

[color=#9900CC][b]Winning at 25% is the norm? No it really is not. Traditionally, winning at 15 or even 10 percent was the norm. But at many circuits Plech has exceeded even the exceptionally high strike rate of 25%. The drugs are not a panacea and they will not work on horses like the Green Monkey, but the horses they can help will run faster and the trainers strike rate will increase by the percentage of the horses the cheating aids.[/b][/color]

CtMC



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