Jerry, I'm not looking for attention. I'm way past that. At this point what I desire is acclaim. Sort of the Rolling Stones of Handicapping, if you get my point.

Doping is clearly an evolving process. In 2002, they were using a dangerous form of EPO and Allday got too much into Plech's horses. Alkalizing agents are part of the triumvirate, but they are not the edge. They are tinkering with designer steroids and designer EPO now and if I don't miss my guess red blood cell augmentation by transfusion. Bloodpacking pure and simple, though the lactic acid issue is part of the equation.

The pharmacy part of the equation is not cheap and its risky. They know the authorities are developing better testing and they use dope more sparingly than in years past. Ironically, they target the Graded Stakes.

I'm not sure what your comment upon Irwin meant. Ramparts are defensive fortifications. If Irwin is sincere he needs to pull his horses from Plech. Otherwise he's a hypocrite.

I didn't Red Board Lawyer Ron's TFigs. I didn't have to, but for the sake of using figures to support the position, could you have someone on your staff pull and post the TFigs history for Lawyer Ron, Left Bank, Freedom's Daughter and Warners. I know the three are from years past, but Lawyer Ron is walking in very familiar shoes.

Besides, when am I ever really wrong? You're not still holding my evaluation of Rags to Riches Belmont Figure against me are you? I thought the results of the Haskell pretty much reinforced the Belmont was not a fast race. That said, in your favor is the fact that Rags certainly got sick after it. To be continued...

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> Without commenting on specific trainers, I want to
> make a couple of points.
>
> 1-- As I have made clear repeatedly, certain drugs
> that move up horses (like alkalizing agents
> {milkshakes}) are LEGAL unless they show up in a
> test in ridiculously high quantities. The argument
> is then an entirely different one-- not whether a
> trainer is moving horses up, but whether he is
> breaking a (stupid) rule.
>
> 2-- I know TWO different people that have had
> direct conversations with Allday in which he spoke
> in detail about drugging horses himself. One posts
> occasionally on this board. The other, who is
> someone I know VERY well, had dinner with me the
> same day he had an hour long comversation with
> Allday during which he went into specific detail
> about what he had been doing in the past, which
> was DEFINITELY illegal, everywhere. My guess is
> that he no longer does that a) because he doesn't
> have to (see 1 above), b) he told the other
> individual I know, later on, roughly what he WAS
> doing then, which lined up directly with what I
> subsequently learned about the
> milkshake-in-a-pill, and c) horses are not dying
> under suspicious circumstances, especially those
> moving OUT of the barns of move-up guys. Under the
> program he told my good friend about, coming off
> it was VERY bad for the horses.
>
> 3-- A friend of mine coined a term a few years
> ago-- the "d---head factor." It means that
> whichever side of any issue you are on, you will
> find yourself aligned with a d---head. CTC is
> obnoxious (intentionally, because he has a
> desperate need for attention). But he's not always
> wrong.
>
> 4-- Barry may not think Pletcher and Allday are
> doing anything, but he has himself been on the
> ramparts fighting drugs. And it's not because he
> doesn't think there is a problem.
>
> 5-- The way I can tell something is going on is
> when, ON FIGURES, several horses from the same
> barn make very unlikely move-ups at the same time.
> The chances of this statistically are very
> unlikely. Someday maybe we'll post all the sheets
> of the Frankel starters from April to June 2001.
> From what I have heard, that is when he started
> using Allday-- but that part is hearsay.
>
> 6-- At the minimum, to give the BETTOR a fighting
> chance, we need to have all CO2 tests published
> (every horse, every race), and a vet of record
> listed in the program. At that point we can look
> at some stats and run some sheets and see how
> things correlate, and begin to have a real
> discussion.