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Re: Okay, Listen (541 Views)
Posted by: fkach (IP Logged)
Date: August 13, 2007 08:36AM
>I didn't Red Board Lawyer Ron's TFigs. I didn't have to, but for the sake of using figures to support the position, could you have someone on your staff pull and post the TFigs history for Lawyer Ron, Left Bank, Freedom's Daughter and Warners. I know the three are from years past, but Lawyer Ron is walking in very familiar shoes. <
I don't know if Lawyer Ron was drugged for his last race or not. I'll Probably never know. But anyone that holds his PPs out as a good example of cheating can't possibly know much about evaluating horses or their development. If you would have asked me before the season started how I expected LR to run this year, his recent performances would have been well within the range of my expectations. The problem may be that you didn't understand his ability and potential last year because several of his good races were hindered by pace and rankness issues. His best races were better and faster than they looked to most people. Then he had some problems in his poor efforts. Keep in mind that his figure for that race is in dispute to begin with.
I checked my back issues of the DRF. Unfortunately, I don't have a set of PPs for Left Bank or the charts from the day(s) when he started getting really good. IMHO, a figure alone will not tell the full story. Many people (myself included) believe that trip, bias, pace, and other factors can affect figures. We already know that that he spiked a couple of huge figures (I believe a sprint and then his final start at 9F). The problem is I vaguely remember a bias at the time Left Bank was setting land speed records. That's why we need the charts. Perhaps someone at the DRF can supply them.
The same would be required to properly analyze the PPs of the other two horses in order to determine if their figures can be explained logically or are somewhat unexplainable (as is often the case with other trainers).
In the end though, you still have to demonstrate that Allday treated those three horses and that he used something "illegal". Otherwise, you are in the same position as the rest of us.
In the mean time, IMO you still have to seperate legal from illegal drug use and I don't see why it's necessary to hurl around accusations as if they are legal certainties.
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