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Re: Kryptonite (590 Views)
Posted by: Michael D. (IP Logged)
Date: August 29, 2007 02:22PM

richiebee Wrote:
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> Best Horses? Probably
>
> Best People? Maybe
>
> Most Knowledgeable? I think if you read even the
> pro- Pletcher posts on this
> board, nobody is comparing him to the best
> horsemen of this or previous
> generations. TAP has owners with deep pockets who
> can provide him with the best
> racing stock in the world, at least what is left
> of it after the Dubai Brothers
> are finished.
>
> TAP's subpar Saratoga meet: As was mentioned by
> some scalliwag on the other
> board (the nerve, to call a certain French trainer
> Patrick Biancobra), it would
> be an interesting study to see what the ROI/ win
> percentage is on Pletcher's
> 100 plus Saratoga starters in their next race
> after the Spa closes (or to see
> if there is any significant TG "correction").
>
> Making more excuses for TAP: He may not have been
> favored by the condition books
> at this summer's meet, which featured
> unprecedented numbers of cheap turf races
> and NYB races. (Despite a subpar meet quality
> wise, NYRA is doing big business
> in terms of total handle which says quite a bit
> about the lack of quality
> racing anywhere else this summer).
>
> It is what it is: Barring a big turnaround in the
> last 6 days of the meet, TAP
> could finish with a win percentage for the meet
> below 10%, and that will be the
> biggest story of the Spa in 07.


good post Richie.

further, poly is crowding out the wind em up quarter horse guys with good vets. the speed game on dirt, a game Pletcher plays so well, just got a lot more difficult. just look at the 2nd today; Pletcher would have been in the winner's circle with that colt last year. this year it's Baffert, who just got the hell out of Dmr.

I'd venture to guess that if Jerry took a look, he'd come up with the same conclusion the other guy did.

the smart guys are going to start to look at good poly form, and look to the big purses at the poly tracks, where the competition isn't nearly as difficult (actually, the smart ones already started).



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