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Re: Kryptonite (485 Views)
Posted by: sighthound (IP Logged)
Date: September 02, 2007 11:24AM

>> Equine insurers then and now feel much more at home with all too frequent >instances of compound fractures, colic and laminitis, with starting gate and >paddock injuries, with animals cast in their stalls.
>>I think it is fair to say that these insurers (or single insurer, if that was
>>>the case) had never been confronted with three deaths of this nature in such >>a close time sequence

With all due respect to you personally, both the above statements are nonsensical and untrue. My assessment is based upon years of personal experience.

I think it admirable that those that wager on horses take an interest in the problem of drug abuse in horse racing. It is present, it is not rare, it needs to be stopped.

Those whose only contact and knowledge of horses and the TB industry is via wagering DO have a valid vested interest, and deserve to be heard, in my opinion.

However, serious discussion has to be based within the parameters of reality.

It is painfully and increasingly obvious that many on this list have little to no factual knowledge about what they are talking about.

Much of what is posted here is simply absurd and illogical to the extreme.

If one is going to publically accuse a trainer of giving a horse "X", the argument would bear weight if the accuser were smart enough to both choose an "X" that can give the response that the accuser says was observed, and to choose an "X' that isn't tested for.

If people want to create conspiracy theory out of the deaths of horses, I would suggest that they don't make themselves look completely and relentlessly foolish by obviously not being familiar with horses, what they can die of, how that can occur, how diagnosis are arrived upon, whether the diseases can occur and progress as published or not, if the published facts do or do not fit "logic" and reasonable explaination, what is tested for during necropsy, etc.

There are trainers out there with multiple drug positives of significant, performance-altering drugs. I never see their names mentioned here.

I do see alot of amateur CSI, and public character assassination, via internet discussion board.

I have no respect whatsoever for the people who come to this message board, and, in front of hundreds of others, while hiding behind their anonymity, publically, repeatedly, relentlessly - over months and years - make serious and real accusations regarding the personal character and professional conduct of others.

Such statements can and do have serious ramification to the lives of your targets in the real world.

People say things on the internet that they would never state on radio, television, or in the print media, for fear of legal recourse.

Guess what guys - the internet is no longer the safe, anonymous haven you think it is.

I would not be surprised in the least if some nice lawyer contacted TBJB, got the names of some of the posters here, and hauled their moronic asses into court.



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