A thought I haven't seen mentioned. Healthy 3 year olds are supposed to be running a fair amount of tops in the spring.

You could also argue that IR was one of best bred for more distance and slop. Bloodstock guy I know named David Miller had him picked on top and sells his ky derby report on brisnet.

Suppose you could also say Bravazzo had an off race at FG where he was getting out on both turns, non effort, trained by Lukas, etc.

Dunno what else anyone could or is supposed to say. The figs are just a tool, one of many. I don't question the TG figs for either of these colts before or after the ky derby.

Here's a thought to question though. I think Rags had Justfy coming into the KY Derby off a pair, meaning they said he ran the same number in the Santa Anita Derby, and won that race, as he ran winning the alwn1x race prior to that. I did't buy that then and I don't buy it now, and I certainly can't believe he then went backwards from there and won the ky derby. But I haven't seen their ky derby figs yet.