Re: JB-Question - Woke Up Dreaming (730 Views)
Posted by:
TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2005 02:11PM
Jimbo-- attached is the Belmont day race that Woke Up Dreamin won. It's almost definitely right-- if you take off two you do get Vicarage and Smokume close to their tops, but you give out some awful big numbers to others, including 7yo Voodoo. And while I haven't done the Calder day yet, it's pretty hard to believe WUD ran anywhere near a neg 5, unless the track changed a lot-- Madcap ran as fast, and LITF a lot faster.
I don't know what Ragozin did with Belmont day, and I don't know what he gave WUD other than what you are telling me. But that's the day I discussed at length in an earlier post, where the track got faster, then extremely slow at the end. Ragozin has the policy I have often quoted (see his book, or my "Changing Track Speeds" presentation on this site for details), which is that the track doesn't change speed except when there is extreme weather-- this results in him creating what amounts to an average variant for the day that he applies to all races. It's possible he did that here.
Hit the 'www.thorograph.com' link below to see the earlier Belmont Day post, and below that to see sheets for WUD's race that day.
http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,20782,20782#msg-20782
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2005 02:15PM by nicely nicely.
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