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Nunzio, Superfreak, Jason L., class and the lessons learned (1243 Views)
Posted by: HP (IP Logged)
Date: June 10, 2002 12:17PM
Supe, I don't know what 'embodied' the contest means. Nunzio employed his betting strategy and won. That's part of the deal. I can't make the argument that the way you chose to play was inherently in the spirit of the contest, and Nunzio's focused win bet approach wasn't. Maybe you should reconsider your attitude a little bit, as this sounds a little like sour grapes, and given your results you should have had nothing but a positive experience, both here and at the track. It would be great if your posts could reflect that.
If I can give you an HONEST opinion, when the game is over and you lose, the thing to do is show some class, congratulate the winner and see if there is something of value for you to learn from his performance. They taught me this in Little League, and maybe it's time for you to learn.
Nunzio has class all the way, and if you can't learn anything from how he bets, maybe you can learn from how he posts.
I think Nunzio's performance provides a valuable lesson and it will have some impact on my approach. Money management and maximizing your wins is as big a part of this game as handicapping. I think I need to focus more on win bets (when I get my price) and use exotics to support them as opposed to my current approach which is doing it the other way around.
Jason, I have to wonder who you are talking to. I don't think I've seen one post that said the Ragozin SHEETS were not an effective handicapping tool in this challenge or any other day. I posted as much on their board. I can only imagine what tune would be sung if Patent had trounced me in the contest.
As for your other point, quite a few people had a positive ROI in the contest, and despite your comments, I think it does have value and reflects in a positive way on those involved. It tells me that both products can be used with some effectiveness. I wasn't looking for an either/or scenario, where Rags or TG would come out ahead. If anything, I think the challenge demonstrates that other factors (i.e., betting strategy and personal views of handicapping) may have as much of an impact as the product you happen to use, which should quiet some of the more vocal partisans on both sides.
For example, Nunzio took a certain betting approach and he took a more favorable view of Gygistar than I did given that horse's last big race. If this tells you 'nothing', I have to wonder what you're looking for. HP
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