Re: Gamblers and Handicappers, Top of the Ninth (516 Views)
Posted by:
MO (IP Logged)
Date: August 11, 2007 11:59PM
Chuckles_the_Clown2 Wrote:
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> MO, when it comes to observations, there is no one
> better at them than a handicapper.[b]I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT[/b] The problem is
> gamblers are not very good at observations and
> there's the rub. [b]AGREED[/b]
>
> Its not my delivery that is the problem. [b]IT IS TOO[/b] I'm
> throwing it over the plate, but there's too much
> velocity and movement for many of the batters in
> this park to even see the pill.[b]YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH. MANY ARE DOUBLE A PLAYERS AND HAVEN'T GOT A PRAYER OF MAKING CONTACT[/b] let alone make
> contact.
>
> I'm sure Plech is a nice guy. I'm sure he wouldn't
> intentionally club a baby seal or win knowing his
> horse had to die. I honestly believe that losing
> the horses bothers him. In his comments from the
> die off, you can read between the lines and
> understand he was struggling with experimenting on
> them. I'm also certain he ingratiates himself
> easily. But, you're not saying a nice guy can't be
> as money motivated and self interested as the next
> check kiter, bank robber or axe murderer are you? [b]ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I'M STILL A NATIVE NYer AND THEREFORE TRUST NO ONE!!!! THAT'S WHY I DON'T BET!!!! BESIDES, TAP GOES OFF AT 3-5 often. WHERE"S THE VALUE??? YOU KNOW HE's GONNA WIN, SO WHY NOT PASS THE RACE, OR BETTER YET, DON'T PUT $ THROUGHT THE WINDOWS AT ALL ANYMORE??? ARE YOU ADDICTED??? THEN GET HELP. ARE YOU A FOOL? THEN, NOT MY PROBLEM!!!!![/b]
>
>
> MO, a fair percentage of the posters here are pari
> mutual fodder. They don't have any significance
> other than adding to the pools. [b]THERE's YOUR LOUSY DELIVERY AGAIN!!!![/b] Among them you'll
> find trainer bettors and those type cash often
> enough on Plech that they consider challenging him
> blasphemy. Then there's the group of guys that
> include you. Folks without ego that are civil to
> all. I'm not in your league there, but if you note
> I only let those have it that are rude and have
> the truth coming to them on ignorance. [b]I DEAL WITH THIS EVERYDAY. THICK HEADS CANNOT BE PENTRATED!!!! WHY WASTE THE ENERGY ON THEM IN CONVENTIONAL WAYS??[/b]
>
> But MO its within Your power. [b]MY PROBLEM IS THAT NO ONE TAKES ME SERIOUSLY. IT'S TOO EASY TO WRITE ME OFF AS A LUCKY ASSHOLE BUGLER. NO BODY TAKES MY SUCCESSOR AS A SERIOUS HANDICAPPER, AND RIGHTLY SO BECAUSE HE HASN'T GOT A CLUE ABOUT HANDICAPPING. AND HE FREELY ADMITS IT. HE's CONTENT TO BE A LAUGHING STOCK, AND THUS THE NY BRED HORSES NAMED IN HIS HONOR. AND SO IF I APPROACH TAP WITH YOUR SUGGESTION, I WOULD LIKELY BE PUT IN THE SAME CLASS, AND THAT WOULD BE INACCURATE,AND UNFAIR TO ME - TO SAY THE LEAST[/b] If you shake hands
> with Plech now and then ask him. Break into it
> with psychology. Tell him you just read an
> interesting article on Allday and that you
> understand he works for Plech, then slide into
> asking when Allday first began treating horses for
> him.
>
> You'll find its right at the time I've indicated.
>
> I'll drop the topic for the time being. Those that
> can contribute now understand how. We'll pick it
> up again when there's another 'development".
>
>
>
> MO Wrote:
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> > At the risk of having a new asshole reamed by
> many
> > of the posters here because in their eyes I'm
> just
> > a "lucky asshole bugler", I'm going out on a
> limb
> > here to offer my observations ( I do get paid
> to
> > observe, so I'm confident that I know my
> > observations are accurate) and hope you will be
> > patient enough to indulge me here:
> >
> > Chuck: I used to have a real problem with anger
> > and depression. I got help and got "cured",
> > although many people choose to put me "in a
> box"
> > and refuse to believe it. That's a long story
> and
> > I won't go into the details, but there was one
> > time before I got help that my younger brother
> > said to me after I was complaining about a
> family
> > matter: "You know, we know everything you say
> is
> > right, but your delivery sucks! And therefore
> we
> > ignore you."
> >
> > I know Todd well enough to say hello. He knows
> who
> > I am and we used to watch races together when
> he
> > worked for Lukas. He's not a friend, just an
> > acquaintance. But we have a mutual respect for
> each
> > other. He has no problem walking up to me
> (unlike
> > his boss) and shaking my hand.
> >
> > I personally do not believe he's a cheater, just
> a
> > great student and has learned from mistakes of
> his
> > teachers. But I do believe that there is so
> much
> > cheating going on that I choose not to put my $
> > through the windows any more as a professional
> > handicapper (with lifetime profit in the tens
> of
> > thousands of dollars still intact).
> >
> > I do think some of the personal attacks against
> > Chuck are warrented because of his delivery, but
> I
> > also look at those same people attacking Chuck
> and
> > their posts and can't help but think they are
> > sadly brainwashed into believing that Chuck's
> > accusations are impossible.