[b][color=#FF0000] Barry, I haven't discerned much of a reason to respond personally to you and part of that restraint involved the fact nothing emanating from you approached a threshold necessary to rebut. That is still the case, but I believe its worth pointing out to the followers of this board why you come across as "low rent property" as evidenced by your complete loss of civility. In a phrase the reason is "personal bias", but I will elaborate some.

Barry, I'm not sure how to phrase this without blowing my own horn too much, but discerning things accurately is something that I do extremely well. I make mistakes now and then, but invariably I both recognize those mistakes and correct them before very long. I've won four of the last six derbies and it really should have been five. As an example outside of wagering unique races, I knew when he invaded that Bush had fabricated a case against Iraq upon impressions, lies and withheld evidence. I knew before the subsequent disclosures that Iraq was a fraud and also knew at that time that it would end as badly as it did for the British and for Charlemagne before them.

Barry in this disagreement you are the one making the mistake.

Respectfully, it's apparent that you don't have the background nor the level of discernment necessary to reach the heart of this matter. Either that, or you lash out in defense of Plech due to a conflict of interests. That conflict involves your publicly stated position that you support clean racing, when that position is mitigated by a private relationship with a "trainer", generally questioned, and one that the knowledgeable Know is illegitimate. The truth do take a bite and sometimes the reason its so painful is because that bite is to the bone.

I would point out that Plech's Saratoga stats still make him the leading money earner with half the wins of the leading trainers. In other words, despite slumping overall he is still ringing the bell in the lucrative races. Part of Plech's doping modus operandi has always been that he continues to "treat" his Grade I stars when backing off on the rest of his stable. Below is a reprise link to the Great Plech Stable Star Die Off of 2002:

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,36897,36897#msg-36897

It's abundantly clear that a prima facie case has already been made against Plech and that the burden is now upon his supporters to do the explaining.

As it has been, it is still within your power to do the ethical thing Barry. Broach with Plech subtley when he established his relationship with Steve Allday and report his answer back to this board.

Those involved in fraud always want those discerning their trickery to clam up.

CtMC


[/color][/b]Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> Scum like Chuckles the Clown in the future will
> not be able to hide behind an inane screen name
> and take pot shots at people like Todd Pletcher.
[b][color=#FF0000] Plech is many things, but virtuous is not one of them.[/color][/b]
> As technology improves, jerks like this one will
> be weeded out of existence and will have to crawl
> back into the holes from which they emerged. This
> putz is a prime example of the worst part about
> the Internet revolution.
>
> If you have something worthwhile to contribute,
> there are plenty of authorities out there
> interested in speaking with you.
>
> In the meantime, I suggest you clam up unless you
> can produce something to back up your claims.