JB wrote: "Let me see, who was it... look, I didn't say anything that would cause you to have to defend yourself."

I wasn't defending myself. I wrote the Plever/Patent bit to remind you that you might want to trust me when I tell you that you're wrong about someone else.

"The only one I accused of bad intentions (and I said he may have
started with good ones) was Marc."

You're wrong about his intentions.

"There were a number of distinctions made that your ellipsis obliterated (and I had already fixed it)."

I'll be happy to get to all of them in due course. My stamina has no end. By the way, are you the only person who gets to edit his posts?

"She's in Turkey, comes back Friday."

You already know what I think you should do here.

"I never wanted to have this discussion in the first place, remember?"

You started the first one, and you started this one. So here we go. Marc did a superb job with this. All I need to do is retrace his steps--slowly. Beginning this string, you wrote: "I said before the race that I didn't know what result would confirm our figures or Ragozin's for the 9/15 race"

Then what the hell are we doing? I'm perfectly willing to follow this through, and I have no end of opinions, but I think it best if we begin with your answer to this question.