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Re: Super Derby (577 Views)
Posted by: jbelfior (IP Logged)
Date: September 24, 2003 12:24PM

Classhandicapper--

My last post on this, I promise. There is also the school of thought that class horses, especially the GR I or II types overcome any pace scenario. In most cases, not all, I agree with that. In my experience I have found that looking at pace figures for GR I or GR II types is mostly a waste of time. The final number for this class usually tells the story. Where I agree with you is that the final number may end up to be be more impressive under the more favorable circumstances. With a slower pace in the TRAVERS, TMW may still have been an impressive winner while perhaps running a zero or negative 1.

PS: Just got news that EMPIRE MAKER is out of the JCGC and perhaps the BC.....hmmmm...


JOE B.




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