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Re: No repect for Came Home (1353 Views)
Posted by: derby1592 (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2002 04:29PM

Mark,

Let me preface this by saying that I think Came Home is a really good horse. You have to respect all those daylight wins. I think he will get a lot of respect as people start looking at the DRF and seeing 1st by 3, 1st by 2, 1st by 4, etc. I think he could be a great horse at 1 mile or less. However, he is the one likely favorites (has to be one of the top 3 public picks at post time) that I will compeletely toss.

His line looks horrible. He paired two very fast races as a 2yo and then reacted. He then comes out and sizzles off the layoff (his trainer is THE best layoff trainer in the US)and has gotten progressively slower with each race as the distances stretch out. You will not find this line on any previous Derby winner.

You mentioned the temperature as an excuse. Well, he spiked a temp after his previous race as well. In my mind, that indicates a reaction to the stress of the race and is yet another negative to go along with his BI and incredibly slow stretch run in the SA Derby.

With regards to being a DQ, he qualifies on dosage and 2yo brilliance but his breeding is far from Derby Caliber (and I am sure that Dr. Steven Roman the inventor of dosage would agree). His broodmare sire has an average winning distance of 6.9 furlongs. You will not see anything close to that in any previous derby winner. Add that to his sire AWD which is mediocre at best and you conclude he has very little chance to win the Derby from a breeding angle. Finally, he is bound to be pressing a hot pace, which will only magnify his distance limitations.

I like the horse. He is brilliant and has great connections but he will not be on any of my tickets unless his odds are much higher than I expect.

Good luck to all.

Chris



Subject Written By Posted
No repect for Came Home (2058 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 01:58PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1231 Views) kevin s 04/27/2002 02:30PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1233 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 02:57PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1256 Views) Michael D. 04/27/2002 03:00PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1353 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 04:29PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1268 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 07:09PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1249 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 07:15PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1375 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 07:29PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1313 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 07:45PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1352 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 08:30PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1254 Views) derby1592 04/27/2002 09:31PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1380 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 10:01PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1223 Views) nunzio 04/27/2002 10:19PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1260 Views) Treadhead 04/28/2002 01:51AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1254 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 02:12AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1335 Views) Excitable Boy 04/28/2002 03:07AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1230 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 10:53AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1306 Views) fastspeed 04/28/2002 02:45PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1211 Views) Treadhead 04/28/2002 04:12PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1258 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/29/2002 03:14AM
Breeding (1244 Views) Excitable Boy 04/27/2002 11:59PM
Re: Breeding (1234 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/28/2002 01:21AM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1270 Views) Treadhead 04/27/2002 07:36PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1329 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 08:27PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1241 Views) David Manley 04/27/2002 09:27PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1245 Views) nunzio 04/27/2002 09:40PM
Re: No repect for Came Home (1325 Views) Mark O'Keeffe 04/27/2002 09:53PM


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