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Re: Pace handicapping (642 Views)
Posted by: HP (IP Logged)
Date: September 20, 2004 03:55PM

Beyerguy,

You start your post by pontificating -- "A lot of frontrunners winning races is not pace handicapping." Then you proceed to amplify your points by posting (twice) about races I didn't even watch, let alone post about. This is you "trying to be nice" and I'm an ass%$#@?

I "based judgements" on races I watched and handicapped. I'm not passing any judgements WHATSOEVER on the races you're talking about, which took place HOURS later.

Hey, I suppose NOTHING could have happened (I'm sure you have detailed notes on track maintenance!) that could change things between races 7 (4.40 PM) and 13 (7.07 PM). FIGURE MAKERS TAKE NOTE -- no change in variant necessary! Don't worry about harrowing or any changes taking place over an eight hour period of racing. Easy day to do!

And by the way, in your carefully reasoned analysis, you left out Race 9, where a horse wired them on the front around TWO TURNS. Which means 3 THROUGH 9 were won in what would reasonable be called "front running fashion." The IMPORTANT thing is that closers won a few later in the card, so you must be right.

My judgement is this -- I thought the speed held up well for the part of the card I chose to handicap, and I think my judgement is borne out by the results. Congrats on your wins later in the day. You're too sharp for me. HP



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