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Re: Didn't we already talk science? (1149 Views)
Posted by: Treadhead (IP Logged)
Date: May 29, 2002 01:11AM
Well that's a great thought David, so how do you measure this constant effect of moisture? What is the scientific formula that Ragozin uses? Not to beat a dead horse, but is someone taking soil samples? As JimP mentioned, is there a formula that should be incorporated to adjust variants based on the amount of moisture. Intuitively, I agree that there probably is, but what proof is there that anyone has it right, or has even attempted to compute this?
Why do you need a significant event to change the track type (and thus variant)? What is evaporation? A track is constantly changing, wet or dry out, water trucks or not, harrowing between races or not. This to me is the most logical argument. Expecting that a track stays the same during an 80 degree, dry day, does not make sense to me. That would mean that soil samples are being taken and that water trucks are replacing the exact amount of lost moisture between races. That makes no sense at all.
The biggest question is which method do you want to go with. The one that assumes things are for the most part the same without a SIGNIFICANT change, or the one that attempts to make a determination of ANY possible track change. To be honest, I have no idea if Jerry does a good job of this or not. Perhaps he puts his figures and pattern making before variant making, I can't answer that. But I think at this point he is arguing his side of the variant story much better.
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