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Re: jerry (1212 Views)
Posted by: Jason L. (IP Logged)
Date: May 31, 2002 10:34PM

Frankly, many of the serious horse players I know use neither, but the one's that use sheets use Ragozin. That is certainly not empirical, but I can infer the sophistication of the user by JB's marketing approach. Any serious user would not be overly concerned with getting his picks. Frankly, none of us should care who makes the numbers or what that person's opinion of a particular race is. What we should care about is that the numbers accurately reflect reality. That is my overriding goal in purchasing numbers. I do not contend that Ragozin is 100% accurate, but is the closest I have ever seen, and thus I use them.

Frankly, I don't want my sheet maker to be in the business of giving picks. Maybe some tips on how to read the sheets, but not picks in individual races. That only leads to laziness on the users part and hinders your own analysis of the race. JB constantly attacks Friedman for not being definitive on his selections. Any person who is definite on betting a horse without knowing the odds is destined to lose regardless of the quality of the numbers. Picking races in advance, gives the picker an incentive to pick winners and not maximize return, which is all a horseplayer should care about. Finally, the act of picking races provides an incentive to make the numbers conform to the picks. I am not accusing JB of doing this, but I think there is an inherent conflict of interest in having the same person make the numbers and then pick the races for marketing purposes.



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