Yes, the prior debate was about how the numbers are generated, but I was not responding to that debate, I was responding to your resistance to give your picks away for free. My point is that if you want serious horse players to take you seriously you wouldn't worry about "selling" your picks at all.

My point also was not that there are no serious horse players that use TG. As I said before, I am sure there are some. But your recent marketing approach (providing analysis, selling through youbet) is geared not toward getting the serious horse player, but to the lazy user who wants someone to the handicapping work for them. Otherwise, you wouldn't care that were giving away picks for free in ONE race dat. You didn't say you would not be providing picks to the Belmont, only that you would not provide them for free. Thus, the comparison to Mr. Patent and anybody else can be made after the fact. Obviously, much of your motive for not posting your picks is that you feel that would preclude some of your target audience from buying your sheets at all. I think it is fair then to say that you provide picks as a means of attracting people who don't really care about your numbers, but care about your picks.

Look, I don't really care that as a means of making money, you sell your picks. But personally, as I said before, I really don't wany my sheet maker to become a tout. If Friedman provided his picks for more than just the triple crown and Breeder's Cup, I would be similarly suspicious. But, as it stands now, Friedman gives the picks on selected days for free and makes you pay for the numbers (And as you repeatedly point out, he really does not give picks as much as his analysis of each horse). I think that is telling about what he thinks is more valuable and what should be more valuable to a serious horse player.