"Beyer, Pace Figs, myself, and virtually everyone else on the planet except for TG and Rags had that race slower (some much slower) - putting it more or less in line with normal 3YO development for Bandini."

Maybe TG and Rags are right and everybody else is wrong?

If YOUR figs were worth anything you wouldn't have so much time to post here.

I'm sure Pace Figs are great, especially since they don't include WIND, which everybody knows is not a major factor. Running a .45 half into a strong wind is the same as running a .45 half with no wind, right? Since you rely on figures without WIND, I guess you have never been outdoors, since you don't think this is important. Most people who have actually been outdoors know it is.

Figures without wind (just one example) have no real value. That's why Pace Figs are free.

Since your figs probably don't include unimportant things like wind, I'm sure they must be very useful. Try running into a 30 MPH wind sometime and tell me you feel confident leaving it out of your figures. Why would you prefer figures without wind and why would you think they were a more accurate reflection of reality? Reality includes wind!

Ground loss probably isn't very important either. Nope, all you need is a stopwatch and you're all set!

"I made a lot of money this spring betting lightly raced improving Pletcher horses against popular wisdom about how they would develop."

And this had a lot to do with your "figures," right? Betting Pletcher "against popular wisdom?" Yeah, those were some kind of longshot bombs Pletcher was putting out there this spring. You're probably ready to retire about now.

I don't take it as gospel, but TG has a superior methodology that more accurately reflects a horse's performance. Jerry's record in the Derby is A LOT better than Beyer's! Most people who post here are well aware of the shortcomings of the other methods...

Maybe you should post your figures for big races here, instead of reviewing the BGrass (again)? I'll look forward to it.

HP