HP,

"Maybe TG and Rags are right and everybody else is wrong?"

Certainly possible and I said as much when JB posted the sheets for the day. They made perfect sense to me.

"Maybe you should post your figures for big races here, instead of reviewing the BGrass (again)? I'll look forward to it."

I did and they squared perfectly when the impact of pace was taken into consideration as posted.

It's not job my to post pacefigs #s, but I saw them. Even though they were a hair different than mine, they squared perfectly when the impact of pace was taken into consideration.

So you can see my problem.

I am looking at two views of the same race that make perfect sense. However they tell me different things about how fast the race was and how well certain horses ran.

One tells me that Bandini probably bounced from here to the moon and the other tells me that Bandini hadn't run an especially fast race relative to his prior performances to begin with and lost for other reasons.