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Re: Derby views from a Non-Ragozin user (668 Views)
Posted by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: April 30, 2007 06:56AM

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Mo agreed but this is also a guy who has saved
> every email for the last eight years. Thumbs up on
> your stance on SS. At least you are out there.

Silver, I didn't save any emails or messages. Tgraph has a 'search' function. I just understand their board is all...lol

> If SS conditioned forward on Ragozin then that is
> most likely who they will be picking.

Theres really no way to determine a legitimate figure for the Bluegrass. Thats not stated for effect. The track was/is as capricious and fickle a surface as this game has ever endured. The Bluegrass was a conditioning race for four horses, now those horses move to a surface where their efforts can be factored.

> Pletcher blazed Cowtown Cat in his work so he is
> sending (there may be a sale involving this horse
> this week). Good there will be heavy pace. His
> former boss (Lukas) taught him well.

He blazed Cowtown "in tandem" with Turfing Magnificent Song and Cowtown put a nose on her at the wire. No other Derby starters worked at Polyexington that day so it was a tuff fraction to figure. In my opinion Cowtown is Pletchers best chance and I don't think he's intending a "lead or bust" strategy with him.

The only other horse to worry about re: pace is Stormello. Currin says they will change tactics and rate. If they do Der Teufle inherits the wind, provided he breaks cleanly, which has been a major problem for him. I'm much less confident about Stormello changing tactics. If Stormello wants the lead its probably his for the taking, but if he does change tactics I could see Teufles where he wants to be. Upon the lead, on a carrying strip, trying to stretch that speed with his raced in foundation all the way to the wire. I think the good horses will get him, but it will be very entertaining.

> A rapid pace does not bode well for NoBiz and Hard
> Spun. Think Pletcher knows that. Three of his AGS,
> CQ and Scat Daddy benefit from that. Think
> Pletcher knows that.

Hard Spun has been schooled to run just off the pace. "Barbaro Like". He'll probably get first run at the pace horses. Nobiz has wanted to run up front and to my eye the blinkers will keep him there.

> Curlin will be looking real animals in the eye
> from beginning to end this time. Don't blink.

Depending upon post draw Curlin will be about 2 or 3 lengths behind Hard Spun. Curlin will get second run at the leaders.

> I have my key and it will not be any of the above.
> See everybody in the IRS Line.

Zanjero will look good with a quarter to go.



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