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Re: Derby views from a Ragozin user (581 Views)
Posted by: fkach (IP Logged)
Date: April 30, 2007 03:32PM

Miff,

"Don't exactly know how Beyer/Hopkins handled the race but they have it slower than Rags(translated) with mainly regressions."

As far as I know, the Beyer team has never had a policy on this issue.

In the past, they would usually upgrade the speed figure for a "slow paced race" and assign a figure based on the horses' PPs and their relationship at the finish. Sometimes they did not though. That lack of consistency was a problem.

However, ever since Randy Moss started making pace figures for the DRF (he also makes the Beyer figures for some circuits), they seem to have stopped upgrading as many slow paced races. They just give out the slow figure.

It would appear there may have been some kind of pace related policy implemented when the pace figures became available. Perhaps because both they and handicappers now have the information required to subjectively determine what, if any impact, a slow pace had on the figures for EACH horse seperately, they don't feel compelled to adjust them anymore. They may also just be identifying slow paced races vs. track speed change issues better now because they have pace figures to work with.

I do not know, but I have noticed at least some difference even if I missed some races.



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