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Re: Pace, Final Time, Kings Bishop (611 Views)
Date: September 17, 2003 02:52PM
>2-- Logic would indicate that a hot pace would only affect those running the fast fractions, not the ones behind them. Final time for most of the field should not be affected.<
That is what my research indicates also, but I have seen enough examples over the years of horses that were further back getting cooked in fast paces when they made middle moves into it etc...
I've also seen examples where all the front runners - regardless of whether their own fractions were extemely fast or not get - bottomed out by chasing it and collapse.
Typically I see fast paces where the early fraction is very fast and the next one is more or less average. That leads to a fast combination because 1 fast and 1 average still equals fast.
There is not enough evidence for me to definitively say that horses that make middle moves into that second quarter are impacted.
However, there are sometimes extremes where there are back to back quarters that are both very fast. In those cases I've seen the front runners completely collapse, but some of the mid pack closers that ran into it also got impacted.
By the way when I say impacted I mean the final times (speed figures) are not in line with what I would have expected given the horses' ability and speed of the track that day.
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