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Re: Pace, Final Time, Kings Bishop (576 Views)
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Date: September 17, 2003 02:37PM

>Look no furthur than the results of last Saturday's Jerome @ Belmont Park. DURING (who came out of the faster pace KB) beat up on PRETTY WILD by 5 lenghts.<

I had a huge bet on During for that very reason and that's why I brought the subject up here.

I know for a fact that Beyer split the variant and bumped up the the figure for the King's Bishop - otherwise During would have had a figure of around 92 and the winner would have gotten around a 97. I know another figure make that did the same thing.

Those earned figures were silly relative the ability of those horses. Horses that finished well beaten had even lower figures.

I am arguing that it was incorrect to split the variant in this case because the problem was PACE and not a change in the track speed.

The figure should have been reported as is (LOW), and astute handicappers should have known that everyone close to it (like During for example) was toasted by it.

On the flip side, perhaps Ghostzapper did not run quite as well as it looks because he was Well Off the pace. That's is not totally clear to me.

In some of these pace examples, you will often find players using the adjusted speed figure and then compensating AGAIN for the pace - in effect double counting.



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