Your Ask The Experts ID
is separate from your
Order Online Account ID
 Race of the Week:  2024 Kentucky Oaks/Derby Days Final Figures Churchill Downs May 3 & May 4, 2024 
Order Online
Buy TG Data
Complete Menu of
TG Data products
Simulcast Books
Customize a Value
Package of Select
TG Data
Sheet Requests
Order The Last Figure for Any Horse
Free Products
Redboard Room
Download and Review previous days' data.
Race of the Week
With detailed comments
ThoroTrack
Email notification when your horse races
Information
Introduction
For newcomers.
Samples and Tutorials
For Horsemen
Consulting services and Graph Racing
Sales Sites
Where to buy TG around the country
Archives
Historical races and handicapping articles
Handicapping
Hall of Fame
Major handicapping contest winners
Home Page
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (369 Views)
Posted by: jimbo66 (IP Logged)
Date: April 11, 2005 12:48PM

Just to clarify, that "4 point edge" does not include the numbers this weekend in the Santa Anita Derby or the Illinois Derby, as T-Graph hasn't calculated them. I am using the numbers in the T-Graph Derby special last week, plus the -4 posted on this board as the "unofficial" Bellamy Road figure.

But I would seriously doubt any horse in the SA Derby ran a "0" or better.

As for the Illinois Derby, I guess the figure for Greeley's Galaxy could be pretty good. We'll have to see.

Speaking of the SA Derby, I would bet the best figure in that race has to go to Wilko. Anybody see the ride that Frankie Dettori gave him. Is there such a thing as "ground loss" records? If there was, I would guess that for 1 1/8 mile races at Santa Anita, Dettori came close. After the ridiculous rides by Jamie Spencer in the BC, especially on Powerscourt, I said I would never bet a European jockey in a US race. But I thought Dettori would be the exception. I was wrong. He had tactical speed in a paceless race and he had a long long run into the first turn. And he still screwed up.

After the race Dettori said the horse was dead game and would move forward off the race and proved he could stay the distance in the Derby. Of course he proved it, he almost ran 1 1/4 in the 1 1/8 race on Saturday.

Sorry for the sour grapes, but as somebody who had Wilko to win and used both the 30-1 winner and 50-1 second place finisher in exactas and triples, needing Wilko 1st or 2nd to make a killing, that ride was tough to take...........



Subject Written By Posted
Aqueduct 4/9 (596 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 04/10/2005 10:46PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (360 Views) 04/10/2005 11:18PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (426 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 04/10/2005 11:35PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (387 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 12:41PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (369 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 12:48PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (405 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 04/11/2005 03:55PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (369 Views) P-Dub 04/11/2005 02:17PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (393 Views) jbelfior 04/11/2005 02:30PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (389 Views) Delmar Deb 04/11/2005 02:44PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (376 Views) HP 04/11/2005 02:54PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (434 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 03:23PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (391 Views) Michael D. 04/11/2005 03:27PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (379 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 03:34PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (400 Views) Michael D. 04/11/2005 03:44PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (348 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 03:49PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (359 Views) Michael D. 04/11/2005 03:56PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (370 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 04:07PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (394 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 04/11/2005 04:37PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (412 Views) beyerguy 04/11/2005 05:47PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (359 Views) Michael D. 04/11/2005 05:53PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (458 Views) beyerguy 04/11/2005 05:57PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (370 Views) jimbo66 04/11/2005 05:55PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (400 Views) Michael D. 04/11/2005 06:01PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (384 Views) beyerguy 04/11/2005 06:02PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (433 Views) 04/11/2005 06:10PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (355 Views) NoCarolinaTony 04/11/2005 05:05PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (470 Views) TGJB 04/11/2005 03:40PM
Re: Aqueduct 4/9 (430 Views) Chuckles_the_Clown2 04/11/2005 03:42PM


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
This forum powered by Phorum.

Thoro-Graph 180 Varick Street New York, NY 10014 ---- Click here for the Ask The Experts Archives.