jimbo66 wrote:

> Chuckles,
>
> Your posts about Bellamy Road are eerily similar to your posts
> about Ghostzapper before the BC Classic,

Really?, heres what I said pre B.C.Classic:

Re: 0-2-x for Ghostzapper - to JB
Author: Chuckles_the_Clown2
Date: 10-30-04 12:29

bdhsheets wrote:

> "this is your brain, and this is your brain on drugs"?"
>
> Where's CtC when you need him....
>

Implying I'm on drugs?....lol Maybe ocassional beer or wine.

I think JB thinks Ghost and Liam got a bit juiced. Perhaps. I find it interesting that Frankel gave little thought to taking Ghost long until recently. I agree that the key to the late Frankel entries are the early Frankel entries. Liam is a good horse at 9 marks. So is Ghost. The question is can they be a good horse at 10 after those recent efforts. He's gonna be mixed up in a somewhat hot pace. The way the track plays could be very important. The Classic is a GREAT race and I"m not implying I have the winner. I think it has potential value.

CtC

and heres what I said post:

Re: Ghostzap Hangover
Author: Chuckles_the_Clown2
Date: 10-31-04 04:49

I sucked, but Ghostzapper surprised me.

I bet against him on Frankels poor early performers and the no juice could be administered theory. I know this horse has some talent, but I'm literally stunned this horse won the Classic on two distance races one of which was against nothing. I know he scored very high on T-Graphs. I spose at 5-2 I wasn't concerned. Perhaps I'm an eternal skeptic, but I think the needle man was able to sneak in on this guy. One of the weirdest race patterns I've ever seen.

CtC

Most of my Ghostzapper comments pertained to the analysis of the race after it was run. I did have Roses in May in my exotics and on top in that race by the way. That race was and remains an abomination.

> with the exception of
> the fact that you aren't questioning the distance for Bellamy
> Road.

Who says I'm not questioning the distance for Bellamy Road?

>
> Trying to beat the favorites is an admirable and smart thing to
> do, in my opinion, but the case you are making against Bellamy
> Road, is not strong. The horse is just as impressive as Smarty
> Jones, and I dare say more impressive.

It depends upon how you evaluate loose on the lead scores doesnt it? and races where the a challenge developed.

> the horses he beat in
> the Wood, while not top notch, were faster or even with all the
> horses in the Santa Anita Derby, except Sweet Catomine.

Says Who? But, assuming thats true did they come remotely close to those back figures Saturday? REMOTELY


> If the number is -4, then Bellamy Road is 4 points faster than
> any other three year old. And, the only horses that are within
> 4 points are Afleet Alex (sprint figure), Sun King (one turn
> figure), and Blues and Royals (one prep in Dubai).
>
> That is a very very strong "number edge", in my opinion.

Provided you're surpremely confident in the numbers.