Kev,

I gave my honest motive on the other board. I am a gambler and am open to any theories or products that increase my ROI. I think that comparing the products would prove interesting. I did some less formal comparisons this summer with a few Rags users and it peaked my interest. The two companies disagree alot. It would be worth it to me to spend some time and money to compare them.

Patterns are of course important, but you must realize how different the patterns for the same horse can look on each of the products? Since you have used both products before at the same time, you would know that on one product, a horse could be sitting on 0-2 and be ready to "x", while on the other he may have paired up his top and be ready to move forward. That is why to me, the simple mathematical formula I proposed would provide a way to see whose figures are more accurate, despite the lack of pattern reading in the study. Reading and interpreting patterns is more style than substance, knowing which horses are the fastest before the race is more important to me. If I know that, I can start from there and figure it they can run back to it. But like I said in my post, that was just my opinion, I am open to alternative ways to measure the data.

RichieBee,

Respectfully disagree with your post. Sheets and Thorographs are not used in different ways. They are used in very similar ways. For this reason, the quality of the data is key. How we as handicappers interpret that, is our own issue. But the figures have to be as accurate as possible.