Apology re: Matron & Atto Mile (524 Views)
Posted by:
Chuckles_the_Clown2 (IP Logged)
Date: September 21, 2005 11:59AM
Well first off, I owe Barry an apology. The quote did come directly from Classhandicapper's post so it was obviously a cut and paste job and NOT a Past Post post...lol I apologize. (Thanks for pointing out my poor reading retention Jimbo) The facts lead me to believe Team Valor has visited the TGraph lunatic board.
I perused the Team Valor site and was impressed with the South African purchase plan. In summary it looks like purchasing horses with pedigrees less dominated by American Sires that pass infirmities for reasonable prices and racing them where they were bred until the best rise to the top and their ability justifies the cost of shipping them to the U.S. There were some nice looking horses in that bunch.
Barry's point about the mojo protecting the horse from fatigue are in line with my observations. I've not had the chance to talk to trainers that use the juice. I wonder if Barry could enlighten us where his conclusion in that regard comes from.
Leroid is obviously a horse with talent. Many times the B.C. Mile is won with 1's and he is capable of that. Until TGraph comes back with the hand times from the Canadian Bell and Atto mile it would be reckless to send in the future bets on Leroid. Hes no value anyway. The bet is to beat him. Dubawi is a nice miler. A concern with him was the skip of a big race because they feared the ground was too firm. The race went in 1.37 Could have been firm ground, long grass...i'm not a Euro race maven.
As far as the figures. Fast figures that are accurate are clearly the number 1 factor to consider in racing horses or building a stable. The problem is no one sells the best figure horses. Just try buying Saint Liam or Afleet Alex NOW.
Barry, I know the owner of Hill n Dale farm and the new owners of Stonefarm have at least been partners and perhaps are friends. Why would the owner of Hill n Dale sell Megadalia d Oro before his first foals have even hit the track? (I take that back theres good reasons to sell before the first foals hit the track. I'm not even sure Megas have hit the ground though, why sell now?) Mega was one of those that seemed to run a little farther and faster than he had a right. Certainly one of the top suspects for the mojo factor.
I summarized Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> Class: you are correct in your position on speed
> figures. Anybody who tries to build a stable of
> racehorses selected strictly on numbers always
> winds up on the short end of the stick. Numbers
> are great and an important tool, but there are
> other elements more important.
>
> Miff: Leroy's nuts are bigger than your head. The
> reproductive vet from Texas who ultra-sounded them
> said they are among the largest he's ever seen.
> You sound like a guy who has heard a lot about
> steroids, but not actually eye-balled many horse
> testes close up.
>
> Hey, I am not going to be put in a position of
> defending Bobby Frankel, so don't put me there,
> thank you very much.
>
> This is one special horse, anyway you look at it.
>
> And on a final note, steroids do not do nearly as
> much for equines as they do for people. Horses are
> already born athletic, they don't require much
> physical help, as do humans.
>
> The way trainers cheat with horses is to make them
> less tired, so they can carry their speed longer.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2005 12:10PM by Chuckles_the_Clown2.