what's the big deal with this : "2-- Let me get this straight, Len. You don't want to do Jimbo's study because it is purely mechanical and doesn't take into account patterns, but you quote the results of a decade-plus old study that was done purely mechanically and doesn't take into account patterns. Do I have that right?"

He said no to doing it, but if he wanted to really know about doing something like it, there's already been a study done. Let me ask you this........Why would even any of you guys ( Len--Jerry ) want to do a test like this anyhow. This is not how you teach your people to use the product, what if one or the other did real bad, what would it do?? Nothing, that's why one of you would say what I just said, that's not how we use our product. The big studys should be done in pattern's and bounces and good stuff like that. Jerry you down for something like that anyways--the best fig. out of the last three crap?? Hell what if they threw in beyers number's and they did better, ouch.