Re: Here We Go Again (624 Views)
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TGJB (IP Logged)
Date: September 01, 2005 04:30PM
Jan gets free data from us, and when we do it, with her and others, we demand no quid pro quo-- we assume that if people are using it they think it has value, and will eventually say so.
I didn't have a problem with Harvey saying he liked Ragozin, I had a problem with the way he treated us, and those guests who used our data. It was particularly annoying because NYRA didn't (and I believe still does not) make a dime on Ragozin sales, which are from a privately owned stand, while we sell from a NYRA stand, which made Harvey's acts something of a conflict of interest.
My problem with what Ragozin does with horsemen (give them bulk data dirt cheap, like DRF customer service) is that it accomplishes it's intent-- which, as Jimbo says, is marketing. They do not have any kind of serious record with horsemen, unlike us. But by charging (literally) less than 5% of what we do, they are able to get horsemen using their product, and talking about it. Ragozin figures have all the exclusivity of Beyers, with horsemen.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2005 04:33PM by TGJB.
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