TGJB Wrote:
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> CTC-- You are using raw times, comparing rough
> classes of horses. We are using figure histories
> of the exact horses in question, with previous
> efforts adjusted for track speed, weight, ground
> etc. Who do you think has a better handle on what
> happened?

Actually, I predicted before the figures were published that the efforts of High Limit and "Bob and John" would be controversial and
scored disproportionately.

The quote below is interesting.

> "For what it's worth, they watered the track before
> each of the first 4 races, again before the 6th,
> and no more afterward. The first 3 races held
> together. The track got much slower for the
> fourth, and gradually speeded up slightly
> thereafter as the day went on, possibly because it
> was drying out...".

In this quote you state the track got very slow with the 4th race, which by the way involved 3YO 32 Thousand Maiden Claiming Fillies. Just how many races had these fillies run to establish a sound pattern of repeatable figure races?

I've bet upon a lot of cheap young maiden claiming fillies in my life and there is only one truism that I can take from that class of race and it is this:

"Maiden claiming fillies are notoriously unreliable."

Just how much stock are you willing to invest in the notion that those fillies were reliable enough to gage a major track "Slow Down" upon? By your analysis the track was speeding up post 4th race. What if you were incorrect about the track becoming abysmally slow in the 4th? If the track actually remained static or sped up slightly by the Strub what would that say of High Limits effort? Could it mean that "Bob and John" may have actually run faster than High Limit?

Is there any reason to believe the following pedigree may be finding maturing form?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/bob+and+john

Silver Charm began this thread with a quasi thought provoking post, then intimating that Bob and John may be the next fast horse. He then made a sudden retraction to defend the host assigned number. Would the Real Silver Charm please stand up? Is he the One that impliedly questioned the number assigned or is he the Silver Charm that abandoned the implied theme of his post to embrace High Limit as the next great handicap star? But even more importantly, which Silver Charm is correct, the sincere one or the disingenuous one? The inside money is on the proposition that he doesn’t know.










Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2006 11:01AM by Tabitha.