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Re: Changing Track Speeds: A Derby Contender Case Study Perhaps (642 Views)
Posted by: Tabitha (IP Logged)
Date: February 13, 2006 12:07PM

I didn't bet the La Canada or even look at the ROTW. Just having reviewed it, congrates to Alan for scoring on that race.

Several factors jump out at me however. Pussycat Doll had that one Huge figue at 7 furlongs on a wet track. That was it. Taking a stand against that figure for whatever reason left her very vulnerable to try and win upon her other numbers. She was stretching out to 1-1/8. Just how repeatable was her previous figure? and thats assuming if it was Projection assigned, as we suspect, it was a legit negative 2.

Maybe Alan took something from the Strub and applied it to the La Canada. Pussycat Doll may have bounced. Then again, she may not have. I read she ran rank early. She did fold up pretty good late.

The race that interested me was the San Vincente. A six furlong test between Too Much Bling and Lost in the Fog is gonna be worth the price of Admission. I'm on the record with Bling.

miff Wrote:
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> Hi Bob,
>
> Nice to meet you. I am well aware of
> projection,pars, et al. For about 10 years I used
> to informally "make" TG figs of all the races in
> New York.I have used TG Figs for 18-20
> years(about) with great success.Alan Rosenthal was
> unofficially promoting the product back then at
> the Staten Island simulcast.The figs were chicken
> scratch on graph paper and came with a rubberband.
> The figs were "gold" for a long time.
>
> In the process of "making"/ projecting the tg fig
> after the card back then,I would come very close
> to Jerry's fig as would several others TG users.I
> stopped doing that about 6 years ago.When you use
> any product for a long time it is easy to spot
> change. Jerry can argue but the product/figs have
> changed dramatically lately and I am NOT the only
> user saying it.After investigating for about two
> years, I can only conclude that the current
> projection method is the root cause. I suspect
> Jerry will confirm that he has not changed
> anything in this regard.
>
> There has NEVER been so many "ugly" TG pairs,
> EVER.I say that from my experience with the
> product.There has been and will be issues with
> figs( like Bob and John, a very ugly group of
> pairs). NO other figure maker that I checked,
> agrees with TG on this except Beyer who is still
> several lengths off TG.Jerry has stated that he
> only considers Beyer credible.I should have the
> figs of the five fig makers at some point fairly
> soon. I'll post them but don't know if they will
> stay up.
>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/13/06 11:26AM by
> miff.






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2006 12:25PM by Tabitha.



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